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The potential buyer of the Rancho San Joaquin golf course has proposed to build a multi-story, 800-unit, high density student housing complex on 25 acres of the golf course property. But what might this look like? At 800 units on 25 acres, we estimate that that's about 30 units per acre. Thus, based on this building density we looked around our local area to see if we could find a development that's close to what's being proposed for the golf course property. And we came across an apartment complex that's 4 stories and is about the same density, 30 units per acre. Take a look and see what you think:
,Keep in mind that the level of detail, finish and exterior landscaping shown in the photos are probably at a higher level than one might find for something like a lower-cost development like student housing.
Aside from taking away our valued open space, a development like this will be totally incongruent to the “village” designs of Rancho San Joaquin, University Town Center, and University Park. And having 3200 additional residents will increase traffic on our already clogged streets, especially on Culver, Harvard, Michelson and University. As they say, a picture is worth a thousand words as these four photos, unfortunately, prove.
7 Comments
8/7/2018 08:41:00 am
I'll support the group's efforts in ANY way I can!! We don't need any apartments on "our GREEN San Joaquin Golf Course corner"!!! Where is the breeze we get from the Back Bay going to go?? Where will they put all of those cars for the 600 apartments???
Patricia Brewis
8/7/2018 09:07:33 am
Take a picture of the student housing on Campus across from Albertsons. Probably a more realistic idea of what units would look like at RSJ.
Ann Harvey
8/7/2018 09:12:42 am
Having lived in RSJ for 35 years I can see the changes made to our community. Not good! The wonderful trees from University gone to widen the street for the flow of traffic already stopped for at least two signals from the freeway offramp to RSJ. I noted when traffic studies were done recently they were performed while there was far less traffic on the road due to vacations and breaks in the UCI schedule. Any traffic study to substantiate 800 apartments must be done at peak times for ICU enrollment otherwise the results will be unrealistic. The number of apartments on Michelson and Jamboree have already created more traffic than we can bear! What's more, what about water shortage? Irvine was built on a master plan of openness. Please, let's keep it that way. Please keep us posted as to meetings of City Council and Planning Commission. Thank you for this opportunity to express these thoughts.
Jane Weyhrauch
8/7/2018 10:46:46 am
I have lived in Irvine over 30 years. When we bought here, we were impressed with the Master Plan for the City. During the past 5 years, it appears that the "Master Plan" has been thrown out the window as the Mayor and City Council cozy up to developers. The "Great Park" is a joke and doesn't resemble what we approved many years ago. When the citizens of Irvine voted against moving the Veteran's Cemetery so that the land could be developed, the City Council and Mayor tried to convince everyone that the citizens of Irvine were "confused" by the badly written Proposition and tried to get the Veteran's Cemetery moved anyway to benefit the developer. Everyone knows how bad the traffic has become in Irvine. Yet traffic study after traffic study supports whatever a developer wants to build. It leaves residents stuck in traffic. This is only going to get worse. It will be interesting to see what the traffic study for this 800 unit, 3200 student building will say. Probably, it will conclude, like many of the other studies, that it will have little impact on traffic because all the students will walk to school. We know that isn't true. Wouldn't it be a good idea to see how the new student housing opening in the fall of this year at Campus and California affects the traffic before approving anything else? It's time for citizens of Irvine to come together and stop this nonsense. Don't let Rancho San Joaquin Golf Course go the way of the Great Park. Email the Mayor and City Council Members and voice your concern.
Diane Sagen
8/7/2018 02:25:45 pm
We moved to Irvine in 1973 for my husband to go to grad school at UCI. At that time there were still cattle where Mason Park is now. Jeffrey was a rustic 2 lane road. We listened every Fall for the geese, which were drawn to the golf course and other open spaces. We appreciated the master plan and followed along as Irvine was slowly developed. But at some point in the last 10 years it’s as if a damn has burst, with one large monstrosity of an apartment building going up after another, and with them came unbelievable traffic, making it necessary to plan ones day around being able to go out.
Greg Lamont
8/7/2018 09:07:02 pm
My wife and I moved to Princeton Town homes in 1992 in large part for the openness created by the wild life refuge, Mason Park and RSJ golf course. In the last two and one half years we've seen an excess of 18,000 new residents put in four story apartments in and around John Wayne Airport, with many more under construction. Harvard traffic has more than doubled in that same time period. With all that development, there has been little in the way of new grocery stores, gas stations, and recreational venues to accommodate the flood of new residents. We understand that development occurs in urban enviroments. But removing existing recreational areas lowers the quality of life for all residents, new and old. Just a question; but do any of the developers live within five miles of Rancho San Joaquin Golf course?
Pat Kennedy
8/17/2018 05:50:26 pm
Our family has lived in Irvine since 1976 and there have been many positive changes properly supervised with mixed density guidelines in the General Plan. There were people in charge who cared about our community. RED FLAG ALERT! We have seen nothing like what has been happening in The Great Park and adjacent Irvine Company Properties during the last 5 years. Horrific traffic problems, lack of neighborhood shopping, parking, policing, etc. Now we have the take over of our city council by Developers and their special PACS. We understood the last ballot measure perfectly! And now we understand that it is time for us all to vote and take back our City Councils. Watch out for the proposed "New General Plan" being proposed right now. Irvine citizens are not alone in this battle! Spread the word before this toxic disease of greed spreads to the last open space in Orange County and destroys our beloved city! Your comment will be posted after it is approved.
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